netmouse: (Photographer Anne)
netmouse ([personal profile] netmouse) wrote2009-08-11 04:24 pm

So very stupid and infuriating

Sat next to Paul Cornell during the Hugos and tried to distract him from his determination to jump off a bridge if various of the nominees in the "Best Graphic Story" category actually won (I'm glad to note he has not jumped off a bridge yet, SFAIK). Then very frustrated to see by the nomination numbers (released after the ceremony) that he himself should have made the ballot for Captain Britain & MI-13.

I was appalled earlier this year when I actually got around to reviewing the ballot (very late in the game), as to about half of what was on it in that category, and even more appalled when I read a variety of fannish reviews and reactions to realize what stood a good chance of winning. That was when I posted this bit On the Best Graphic Story Hugos. I had not bought my worldcon membership early enough to nominate, having been busy turning life upside-down and not realized the "get your membership by this time to nominate" deadline was a month earlier than the actual nomination deadline.

I am glad the Best Graphic Story category has been affirmed and will be on the ballot next year, giving the community some chance to get and act a little more in touch with the world of comics and with graphic storytelling. I have no idea, however, how the Hugo Administration Committee can possibly make amends to Paul for this appalling oversight. Nor to the rest of us for depriving us of what would have been a higher quality ballot to vote on.

I have not been this upset about a nominations administration decision since I realized the way the 2003 committee's decision to move Lilo and Stitch into the long-form category (at 80 minutes, it qualified for either short or long form) quite possibly eliminated its chances of getting on the ballot since it was only shy of the long form ballot by 4 nominations. By the rules (which were not included on the ballot, so the nominators didn't know this), if a voter nominated Lilo and Stitch in the short form category BUT had already nominated five items in the long form category, Lilo and Stitch was not nominated at all from that ballot. Even though short form was officially a valid category to have nominated it in, and even if it was the person's top pick in short form. (The number of cases in which its nomination was thus eliminated have never been revealed).

That was a very hard decision for the committee to make in 2003 (really what they could have done was make a pre-emptive anouncement as to what category they thought it went into before people nominated, but the committee cannot be expected to do that for every work in every category). This year's decision should not have been half so hard. Captain Britain & MI-13 and Captain Britain & MI-13: Secret Invasion was all the same story, just compiled into larger volumes instead of individual comics; the nominations for them should have been merged, putting Paul in the shortlist. I believe the committee has committed a foul error. Shame on them.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/jer_/ 2009-08-12 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Admittedly, I know little about it, but the two Captain Britain titles appear to be two separate books, aren't they?
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[identity profile] netmouse.livejournal.com 2009-08-12 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
No, the second title is the title used when they collected issues of the comic together, bound into larger volumes. Like they do. It just happened to be printed that way as part of a larger crossover project (there are many crossover characters in this series), which is acknowledged by the addition to the title.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/jer_/ 2009-08-12 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, I couldn't tell in my grossly minimal research. So the second is the trade paperback title whereas the first is the title of the series in situ?
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[identity profile] netmouse.livejournal.com 2009-08-12 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, basically. I mean, it's just, like, 4 issues of the comic series per volume of the Secret Invasion, so there are still more than one volume of Captain Britain & MI-13: Secret Invasion, it's not all in a single trade Paperback. I don't really know the industry terms for these. But it's definitely the same story content.

This sort of thing is something the Hugo Administrators are going to have to learn about in order to administer this category, but they could have gone to anyone knowledgeable about the industry (like, say, Neil Gaiman, who spotted and commented on it immediately when he reviewed the nominations numbers late Sunday night, or maybe even local comics expert Peggy Burns of Montreal's own Drawn and Quarterly (http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/)) and asked, and they would have got this answer. The titles are close enough that they should have thought to consult someone, or frankly just pulled the things and checked.
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[identity profile] netmouse.livejournal.com 2009-08-12 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
(I just changed the wording in my text to hopefully make this more clear)