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netmouse ([personal profile] netmouse) wrote2008-10-14 11:55 am

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Does anyone besides me wish there was a rule that television broadcasters had to pull/cancel political advertising that was demonstrated to contain out-and-out lies?

I mean, somewhere in there where you get a broadcasting license, you agree to serve the public. Permitting deceptive advertising just because you've received your pieces of silver is not serving the public.

ETA: this post is in reaction to this ad, which as discussed here posits a lot of things unrelated to Prop 8 as an argument for it, as though it defends people in the state against things other than the state's recognition of the right of gay couples to get and be married. Further discussion here.
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[identity profile] netmouse.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. The one referenced here (https://secure.ga3.org/03/caequalpac_match/nG1d9KSFqNWOu?), that brings up gay marriage being taught in schools - a topic that does not appear in proposition 8, and churches losing their tax exemption, which has to do with churches doing political campaigning - nothing in the proposition forces churches to hold any particular stance toward gays but as discussed here (http://www.dailytrojan.com/opinion/prop_8_causes_no_harm), it does suggest that churches that do this sort of thing (http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/latter-day-saints/71457-church-tax-exempt-status-prop-8-a.html) are not staying within activities that their designation as a church was designed for.
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[identity profile] netmouse.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
turns out I was misreading things and the threat of lost tax exemption was just a speculation, not something in the proposition either...

All proposition 8 does is, as the title indicates, it Eliminates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry, adding a line to the state constitution saying that the state only recognizes marriages between a man and a woman. It says nothing about what churches, individuals, or schools, may or may not do.

[identity profile] skyfire1228.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Churches are not required to perform marriages for gay and lesbian couples; that was written in to the Supreme Court ruling that overturned the previous ban on gay marriage. The text of the ruling says: "Finally, affording same-sex couples the opportunity to obtain the designation of marriage will not impinge upon the religious freedom of any religious organization, official, or any other person; no religion will be required to change its religious policies or practices with regard to same-sex couples, and no religious officiant will be required to solemnize a marriage in contravention of his or her religious beliefs."

[identity profile] sethb.livejournal.com 2008-10-14 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
No church is required to perform a marriage for anybody they don't want to.

They can refuse on the grounds that the applicants aren't of the proper religion (or didn't follow some ritual), or pretty much any other grounds they choose.