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netmouse ([personal profile] netmouse) wrote2008-05-20 07:37 am

Wow.

75,000 people Rallied for Obama in Portland.





Now if we can just *also* get him to take Kentucky. Anyone know people in Kentucky?

[identity profile] shsilver.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
My m-i-l is in Kentucky, but she is firmly in Clinton's camp (as well as being firmly in Clinton's primary demographic).

[identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Since I teach in Northern Kentucky (right across the river), I know lots of Kentuckians. However, most of the ones I know well enough to have talked politics with are already Obama supporters.
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[personal profile] cos 2008-05-20 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
... but will they vote?

Most elections (certainly this one) are influenced a lot more by who does and doesn't vote, than by people being convinced to pick one candidate vs. another.

(Anonymous) 2008-05-20 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm from Kentucky and voted earlier today. If you can believe the polls, however, Clinton will win big.

Joel
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[personal profile] cos 2008-05-21 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't need any polls to know Clinton would get in the mid to high 60s. A map of which counties Clinton had gotten 65 or better in until then showed a very clear swath that Kentucky and West Virginia showed up as two holes in. They were clearly both going to complete that map. Look at that map and you'll see how obvious and predictable this was. Real vote returns are a much better predictor than polls.

[identity profile] sageautumn.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Wellll... I am from Kentucky. And I'm voting.

However... *laughs* At least I am voting, right?

[identity profile] ozarque.livejournal.com 2008-05-20 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow for sure. But even if it were possible to get another 75,000 people to show up for an Obama rally in Kentucky, I don't think it would help.

[identity profile] mjwise.livejournal.com 2008-05-21 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Ha! Based on the 2-1 returns I'm seeing, I think Obama's problem consists of too many of those pesky "typical white people" in Kentucky. Plus it's so far from Illinois as compared to Arkansas, or something.
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[personal profile] cos 2008-05-21 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's not "white people", it's Appalachian white Democratic primary voters. That is a group that has strongly preferred Clinton over Obama all the way from western New York to the Ozarks. If you look at a map of the country showing counties Clinton got 65% or better in, it's pretty much a swath from western NY to Texas, covering the Appalachians and Ozarks and then a little bit into Texas (into areas of Texas populated largely by people who came from the Appalachians).

I wonder if the pundits are gonna keep repeating that it's "white people" in general, today, given that Oregon is so overwhelmingly white (as are Iowa, Kansas, Vermont, Maine, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Washington, North Dakota...)

[identity profile] mjwise.livejournal.com 2008-05-21 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Well, maybe they're just bitter. The Senator just better hope the bitterness hasn't pervaded Michigan and Florida come November.