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netmouse ([personal profile] netmouse) wrote2008-02-12 11:00 pm

interesting..

Penn says Hilary joke predicts the future


(if link takes you to a different piece, you may have to select it-- mouse over each "Penn Says" episode to see which has which title).
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[identity profile] netmouse.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
What to you mean by "bigger" and furthermore, who is this important to? Are you supposing that some portion of the society feels slighted by "obama vs. Clinton" in some way that could possibly be "made up for" by the possibility that the more populous trend is the other way around?

Personally I don't mind that this black man might beat a white woman in the race for president. Both types of barrier breaking are important, and I think this country has a long way to go in being either race or gender blind.

Personally, I am pleased to see how much of the outreach to black society is being done by Obama's wife. A vote for Obama is a vote for her, and that has become a positive in this race in a solid way I don't believe the Clintons ever made it to while Bill was running. People have always had mixed feelings about Hilary. It isn't just after years and years of republican bashing, it was so during Bill Clinton's first run at the presidency, too.

I would like to see a woman president, sure. But I would rather see one better poised to succeed (once she has the post) than Hilary Clinton seems to me to be. I think the Democratic party needs an overhaul for many reasons, and one of them is its failure to balance out its candidates on a gender basis. I was just in fits when they changed the jurisdictions here and screwed Lynn Rivers out of her congressional post by putting her against the more senior (and male) Dingell. For the party to undermine rather than support the best female political representative I've ever known was just despicable.

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2008-02-13 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
"What to you mean by 'bigger'..."

More people.

"...and furthermore, who is this important to?"

Anyone trying to predict the outcome of the next election.

"Are you supposing that some portion of the society feels slighted by "obama vs. Clinton" in some way that could possibly be "made up for" by the possibility that the more populous trend is the other way around?"

Exactly.

Assume 10% of the electorate would vote for a generic black over a generic woman. If 15% would vote for the specific Obama over the specific Clinton, then he is more electable. If 5% would vote for the specific Obama over the specific Clinton, then she is more electable.

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