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netmouse ([personal profile] netmouse) wrote2008-01-11 07:59 am

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Kucinich calls for recount in NH.


In the last year not a lot of people have been talking about the fact that two years ago lots of watchdog groups were saying we were not ready to have a presidential election we could depend on--many of the electronic ballot-counting systems were actually worse at the time (for accountability) than New Hampshire's, which at least appears to keep a copy of a physical ballot. I'm not sure how far we've gotten since then.

One analysis group reports of the NH primary that comparison of *some* hand-counted ballots with *all* the electronic ballots show eerily switched percentages for Obama and Clinton compared to the total count reported. What's that Scalzi was just saying about how hard Clinton would fight for this election? Seriously, though, numbers do weird things sometimes. It's not always a conspiracy. But I'd like to see a recount like this done at a time when no one can argue the whole national economy is waiting with baited breath for the results and that therefore (this argument never held water for me) we have to stop counting the votes. Please, please, please, let's not have another Florida/Ohio/etc. situation. This is America. We really ought to be able to get this voting thing down. It's not really that complicated.

Voting

[identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com 2008-01-11 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
"It's not really that complicated."

Unfortunately, it is far more complicated than most people think. "It's really not that complicated" is the source of a lot of our problems.

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Re: Voting

[identity profile] netmouse.livejournal.com 2008-01-11 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
well, complicated is not the same thing as "difficult to assure is not undermined by people intending to do the process harm"

I liked the idea of having the code for counting ballots in electronic machines be open source, giving all citizens the right to examine the source at any time during the day, prior to or during the election.

That, and keeping a paper ballot (making sure they are neither thrown away nor altered).

That, and designing the ballots to be usable. And having enough polling stations. OK, the whole process can get complicated, but the fundamental concepts are not.