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netmouse ([personal profile] netmouse) wrote2006-07-07 02:31 pm

meme: Support the experience economy: send skzbrust $2

Please join me in convincing a stubborn Hungarian who is also a fabulous author (Steven Brust) to start accepting paypal donations on his website.

1. (optional) read the explanation of the reason/philosophy behind this: http://netmouse.livejournal.com/216556.html

2. If you have a paypal account, Paypal $2 (or more) to skzb -@- dreamcafe.com (take out the spaces and the dashes to use as an email address)
Note: please use the subject line "So there..." (feel free to add your own comment).


3. post this to your journal with a comment about Brust or his work.


My Comment:

I have known Steven personally since sometime in the mid 90s. At the time I met him I had read everything he'd written to date, except for The Sun, The Moon and The Stars, which I have since discovered is fabulous. My favorite book of his is Jhereg. The first night we met we stayed up all night at a Minicon music party, making music.

I hope to go on making music with you for many years, my dear and stubborn friend. So there.

[identity profile] rmeidaking.livejournal.com 2006-07-09 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
The core question is this: Why do you need the money?
The second core question is: What are you doing to deserve the money?

In general, in our society, we trade something of value for something else of value, and that's how we survive. In general, we do something for someone that has value, and they give us money.

If someone does not have all of the money that they need to live the lifestyle they want, in general, they have to readjust their lifestyle. That's the appropriate, dignified solution. Keep downsizing until you can live on what you're producing.

In this case, apparently someone cannot live his chosen lifestyle on the amount of money he is currently earning. You are suggesting that the solution be for him to request more money from strangers, on the merit of past works. What about other solutions, such as writing another book? Playing music in bars?

In my life, I have been all over the map, economically. I had reason recently to see - as I was shredding - my tax returns for the past twenty years. Some were an order of magnitude higher than others. Some of those years were really lean. One summer, I lived in an 8x32 trailer without running water (I had a rain barrel for flushing water, and showered at a friend's house); the rent was $25 per month, plus utilities. I spent a different summer surviving on $12 per week for food, after I paid my housing and utilities. Yes, I ate a lot of rice and ramen. Ultimately, I moved back to my parents house for three months that time (that's when you know all of your dignity is gone, BTW, but it was that or live in a tent).

I can imagine only a few cases where I would get to opening a PayPal account and asking for donations, and they all involve the need for money not being money mis-management on my part. That is, if my house burns down after being struck by lightning, and for some reason the homeowners insurance doesn't cover housing during rebuilding, then I might; or if one of my kids contracts a serious illness (e.g. cancer), it's conceivable, but again there would have to be a failing on the part of the insurance company.

Maybe it's part of a core need for self-sufficiency, or a reaction against certain of my cousins who can only be described as leeches and parasites, but my sense of self wouldn't allow for begging. I would have to provide a service in return for the money, in the present or under a current contract (e.g. as royalties or deferred compensation). I have a serious desire to never be a Charity Case.

Does this make more sense?
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[identity profile] netmouse.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
I can see where you're coming from, but I disagree that the core question is why do you need the money. I would rather live in a society where our beloved artists are wealthy and our executives of modest means than one in which the people who bring bright shiny moments to our existence feel they have to justify their finances. In this case, it is true, skzb is in a hard way regarding funds. He's had a recurring health problem that's got him in steep with a local hospital, mainly because he hasn't got health insurance. And sure, with some financial planning he ought to have had health insurance, and he has in fact repeatedly said he doesn't have a donation thing because his financial situation is his own responsibility -- but this isn't just about him and his current situation. I picked him because someone brought it up in a comment on his journal, and I got a fire under me to try this. A lot of authors don't have health insurance. And, I would point out, it is in fact more of a challenge to manage your finances when you only get paid rarely (albiet in relatively large bundles compared to your average paycheck). This is a problem for any artist who works on contract.

In my mind, this is about the general problem of paying people for things and copies of things instead of for the act of creation and the experiences they give us. When I've read Jhereg for the fifth time and am sitting there in the glow of enjoyment, I don't want to give something to the artist based on past merits - that merit lives on and is present in my ongoing experience of that literature. And since I bought that book used, and since the evolution of the economy is only toward its being easier to exchange copies of things without paying something to the artist down the line, I think we need to evolve our renumeration methods too.

[identity profile] rmeidaking.livejournal.com 2006-07-10 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
I would re-adjust the solution to be to encourage everyone to go to Amazon.com or their favorite bookstore, and buy NEW books by the author. If you already have copies, donate them to your local library.

The goal is to increase funding while maintaining dignity. PayPal probably isn't the way to go, but there probably is a solution out there.