being stubborn == good entrepreneur?

[netmouse]

On Wednesday flinx and I went and saw Mongol, which they describe in the trailer as "the untold story of Genghis Khan's rise to power" and which could be subtitled "How to Choose a Good Wife." It was a good movie, full of amazing vistas, with a lead character who could have been the poster boy for entrepreneurialism.

That is to say, before he was Khan, he was the son of a dead Khan, and thus a threat. He ran away, and was caught. And ran away, and was caught. And ran away, came back to get his wife (first battle we see him winning), later got into a different battle, and was caught. And was sold as a slave, and was imprisoned. And got away (enter the importance of choosing a good wife), and eventually won battles and united his people under the rule of law. Throughout which, he was amazingly stubborn and stoic.

In Before you Quit Your Job, Robert Kiyosaki quotes someone as saying, "Losers quit when they fail. Winners fail until they succeed."

Is it bad to choose the head of the Mongol Horde as a role model?

Comments

[tlatoani.livejournal.com]

He might be a better choice than Kiyosaki, but it's hard to tell because both of their backgrounds are highly fictionalized. ;-)

[aiela.livejournal.com]

I really, really wanted to see that. It was playing at Royal Oak but I don't think it is anymore. I'm glad to hear it was good, I was worried.

[batwrangler.livejournal.com]

Under these circumstances, I think not. You might want to avoid any smiting of your enemies that is not metaphorical, though: I'm told the paperwork is a nuissance.

[kissangel.livejournal.com]

Nah. I think using Genghis Khan for a role model isn't the worst thing. Using, say, Mr. Potatohead would be.;)

And hey. He's inspired Mongolian barbeque. Can't beat that with a stick. ;)

[matt-arnold.livejournal.com]

It's funny that you mention someone who is so frowned upon, because much of my concern about entrepreneurship (or at least entrepreneurship books) concerns the consequences of failure on other people. Employees, clients. The stereotype of a bad entrepreneur is of a charismatic schmoozer who keeps bullshitting people into going along with bad schemes. The books say "if you don't have money, you just go out and get the money", but carefully gloss over the potential moral consequences of where to get it from. That's what bothers me about rah rah overconfidence preached by motivational speakers. I suppose that's where the phrase "confidence games" comes from.

For an enthusiastic evangelist like me, this is a pitfall to watch out for. But I'm not saying it's a show-stopper.

[grimfaire.livejournal.com]

He can't be worse than mine... Conan... "crush your enemies... see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women, this is what is best in life." :)

[avt-tor.livejournal.com]

What Genghis Khan did wasn't "entrepreneurialism". Business and war aren't the same thing. Entrepreneurialism involves identifying something people want, figuring out how to get it to them, and doing it. Economics is about voluntary exchanges between free individuals for their mutual benefit. Genghis Khan was a military leader; he relied on coercion, loyalty through fear, and literal destruction of not just his enemies but also civilian populations in enemy territory. Is it morally wrong to adopt the principles of violence, coercion, and revenge that were hallmarks of Genghis Khan's success? I would say yes. Do some business leaders use these tactics? Yes, but it's not admirable.